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【求助】蛋白结晶


老板让我做蛋白质结晶和X射线衍射,实验室没人做过,一头雾水!请大家推荐些这方面的文献,或是一些在这方面比较强的牛人!
拜托!感恩不尽!
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建议联系清华大学的施一公老师。
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虽然结晶是个粗活,不过粗中有细,自己看文献是不行的,隔行如隔山,必须和结构生物学实验室合作。
清华、北大、生物物理所、科大、生化所都有。
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我也想做一膜蛋白的结晶,但是实验室没有经验,也想联系其他的实验室来做,不过不知道人家是否愿意和我们这三流学校合作。。。
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Go to Hampton Research website to check materials for protein crystallization.

Normally, you need to get pure protein first;

then do crystal screening to see if you could get protein crystal;

then optimize the crystallized conditions to get good single crystal;

then collect X-Ray diffraction data at synchrotron beamline at Beijing or other synchrotron facilities all over the world, or lab-based X-ray equipment;

then solve the protein structure by softwares(if you really want to do the thing, be familiar with softwares, such as CCP4, CNS, SHELX, COOT, solve/resolve and others, from now on. Some softwares are free to academia so you can download for their websites, but some not free, if you boss has enough money, just ask to buy, but I think many bosses in China are miser).

then deposit you structure to PDB (protein data bank), and publish your paper if you get the structure. If you can do the relative functions, that is better. Structure plus function is the best. A very good paper will you get.

Anyway, the experiments are routine. You have to spend more time on softwares if you want to be an expert.

Besides, I think you need to read some textbooks about protein crystallography. Basic knowledge is necessary.
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楼主这种状况做结晶是有点困难啊。
楼上说的不错,
首先难道足够纯的蛋白,越纯也好结晶,最好能95%以上。
如果有钱,买Hampton等公司的筛选试剂盒,不是一般的贵,如果你只是做一两个蛋白,估计谁都会心痛的。
不然就参考文献,自己配些buffer,根据文献,对pH,PEG,盐浓度等一些了条件做调整,筛选。
养晶体之后就是看晶体,不要把盐晶当成是蛋白晶体。
如果有蛋白晶体,捞出来去做x-ray。
数据分析可能是最难的一步了,反正我是不懂,我们公司有专门的人做这一块的,我看着是云里雾里,哈哈。
祝好运!
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Many companies have commercialized screening kits, such as Hampton Research, Emeralds, Qiagen. If you do not want to buy the Hampton Research screening kits, you could prepare the kits according to the formula. But the total cost for buying reagents would be more than that of buying the screening kit. The best way is to co-operate with the labs which do protein crystallography because of your lab's condition. Some labs in Beida, Qinghua, and Institue of Biophysics do that job.

If you have other questions later, just free to ask.
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我的蛋白是RNaseA的变体,老板说RNaseA已经结晶出来了,结晶条件文献上有,他是觉得不难,想让我参照文献试试看,当然他也正考虑与其他实验室合作。不知他这种想法对不对?不过我现在还在做蛋白纯化这一步。要想得到很纯的蛋白,是不是过一个柱子不够啊,要过好几个吧?
请高手们指教
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What tag did you use for your protein? Histag, GST, MBP or others? You have to check the purity with SDS-PAGE after every purification step, such as Ni-NTA column, Ion-exchange, and size column. As xsvulture said, the purer, the better.

There is one thing you may be confused. The 95% purity on SDS-PAGE does not just mean enough purity. Because the purity on SDS-PAGE is based on denatured form. The 95% purity should include the homogeneity of three-dimensional shape and the charge distribution of protein.

After you get good purity (>95%) on SDS-PAGE, you maybe need to run a size-column to check the apparent molecular weight of your protein to see if it is dimer, tetra-mer or aggregate(for example, big M.W. more than one million) (In aggregate case, you won't get any crystal even though you can get only one band on SDS-PAGE. I met the case before). This way is crude.

There are other ways to check the homogeneity of protein in certain buffers, such as Dynamic Light Scattering and thermofluor method. You can check the references later if you really need to do these experiments.

Just do crystallization as the references' method first. If no crystal, do crystal screening.

How much is the sequence identity of your RNaseA to the crystallized one? I think that there should be structure of the latter in PDB and maybe you could use Molecular Replacement to solve the structure of your RNaseA if you could get crystal later.

Good luck!
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電磁波理論與晶體學都應該看看.

蛋白質晶體結構方面的有一本簡易的﹐<<晶體﹐X射線和蛋白質>>﹐書有點老﹐可以
用來上手。 此書在從電磁波到晶體X-ray衍射的數學推導方面有一定的學習價值﹐而晶體
方面的內容過于簡略。新手應該合適的。

也可以從網上找protein crystallography的教材來看﹐英文的很多。
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