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标题: 【求助】原核表达包涵体问题 [打印本页]

作者: star#room    时间: 2013-4-24 16:23     标题: 【求助】原核表达包涵体问题


小弟在做原核表达。用的是pet-28a和BL21(DE3)。OD0.5-0.6时开始诱导,IPTG浓度有1mM 0.5mM 0.1mM 0.05mM 0.01mM,诱导温度有37度,30度,25度,20度,16度,诱导时间从2小时到18小时,诱导转速250转,诱导时每个250毫升的三角瓶中有100毫升的培养液。培养液LB或NZCYM都用过。这个蛋白有8个半胱氨酸。破碎用的缓冲液为PH7.4的PBS(含有百分之一的Titon X100)
跑胶后发现上清中目的蛋白很少,基本上都以包涵体形式存在。目测观察包涵体的量大约为上清中目的蛋白量的5倍以上!
请问各位大虾我该怎么办?如果换载体的话,哪种载体比较好?谢谢!

作者: cwcwcww    时间: 2013-4-24 16:24


采用含有GST标签的PGEX系列载体试一试,可以增加蛋白的可溶性表达,也可以联系上海生工帮我。

作者: hot_hot_hot    时间: 2013-4-24 16:24


I noticed that you could get some soluble protein in supernatant(~10-15%). Therefore, it becomes important to think about what is the purpose to purify this protein.

If you want to do crystallization or NMR ,maybe it is worth to try to improve the soluble expression. But I strongly suggest to obtain enough protein simply by increasing the culture volume.

If you want to do some biochemistry experiments, it will definitely waste your time to search methods improving the soluble expression.

作者: star#room    时间: 2013-4-24 16:25



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原帖由 hot_hot_hot 于 2013-4-24 16:24 发表 bbcodeurl('http://bbs.antpedia.com/images/common/back.gif', '%s')

I noticed that you could get some soluble protein in supernatant(~10-15%). Therefore, it becomes important to think about what is the purpose to purify this protein.

If you want to do crystallizati ...

This protein is an enzyme that I want to reserch the catalytic activity. On the other hand, degeneration and renaturation of inclusion body is very difficult for my enzyme(I have tried).So I want to get enough soluble protein for purification. Whicht the common vector can decrease the amount of inclusion body and increase the soluble protein? What about pMAL vector? Thank you !
作者: hot_hot_hot    时间: 2013-4-24 16:25



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原帖由 star#room 于 2013-4-24 16:25 发表 bbcodeurl('http://bbs.antpedia.com/images/common/back.gif', '%s')


This protein is an enzyme that I want to reserch the catalytic activity. On the other hand, degeneration and renaturation of inclusion body is very difficult for my enzyme(I have tried).So I want to ...

According to my limited experience, the problems in expressing heterogenes, such as expressing or not, soluble or not, are mostly depending on the intrinsic characterization of this protein. Occasionally, the expression level could be improved by adjusting in vivo (for EX. vector, host, code bias, codon optimization, truncation expression) or in vitro (medium, temp., air, agitation, inducer) conditions. It is very difficult to say which vector is the best. The only thing you can do is to try one by one. Of course, pMAL should be tried. According to the manufacturer, MBP will certainly improve the expression, but they have never guaranteed.
作者: star#room    时间: 2013-4-24 16:26

Thank you for your advice. I will try another host which can express thioredoxin reductase and glutathione reductase. If the result are not good, I think I will change the vector or express my gene in Saccharomy cescerevisiae.
作者: nut6694    时间: 2013-4-24 16:27



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原帖由 star#room 于 2013-4-24 16:26 发表 bbcodeurl('http://bbs.antpedia.com/images/common/back.gif', '%s')
Thank you for your advice. I will try another host which can express thioredoxin reductase and glutathione reductase. If the result are not good, I think I will change the vector or express my gene in ...

你也遇到了和我一样的问题?怎么弄上清都少?
作者: star#room    时间: 2013-4-24 16:30     标题: 回复 #7 nut6694 的帖子

对呀,复性效果也不好,都不知道怎么办了
作者: rxcc33    时间: 2013-4-24 16:31

我现在表达纯化的蛋白也是一种酶,试过几次了,都是以包涵体形式存在的。师姐也建议我换个载体重新表达,可是我觉得很浪费时间,请问你与后来是如何让解决的呢???求建议~~~~谢谢~~
作者: nut6694    时间: 2013-4-24 16:32



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原帖由 rxcc33 于 2013-4-24 16:31 发表 bbcodeurl('http://bbs.antpedia.com/images/common/back.gif', '%s')
我现在表达纯化的蛋白也是一种酶,试过几次了,都是以包涵体形式存在的。师姐也建议我换个载体重新表达,可是我觉得很浪费时间,请问你与后来是如何让解决的呢???求建议~~~~谢谢~~ ...

现在在纠结阶段····我想换个载体继续原核表达,老师想让我做个真核表达···唉。你用的是什么载体啊?
作者: rxcc33    时间: 2013-4-24 16:32


我用的是载体pET28a,我现在正在做复性这步,结果还没出来,想将这一系列做下去,检测包涵体纯化是否成功。我老板建议我降低温度,表达成可溶性蛋白。

作者: nut6694    时间: 2013-4-24 16:33



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原帖由 rxcc33 于 2013-4-24 16:32 发表 bbcodeurl('http://bbs.antpedia.com/images/common/back.gif', '%s')

我用的是载体pET28a,我现在正在做复性这步,结果还没出来,想将这一系列做下去,检测包涵体纯化是否成功。我老板建议我降低温度,表达成可溶性蛋白。 ...


你做变性复性啊?复性不太好弄啊,我试过,稀释复性,复性效率很低很低,后来果断放弃了。我诱导温度已经降到10度了,诱导了36小时,包涵体确实少了,但是上清中的目的蛋白也少。祝好运。

作者: 49888    时间: 2013-4-24 16:33


pMAL-c2x是一个选择,可以试一试,其中的融合蛋白MBP有助溶作用,可以提高共表达目的蛋白的可溶性。但是得到的产物为“MBP-linker-目的蛋白”的一个融合蛋白,若要研究原始蛋白的酶学参数,还要特异性切下。

作者: 969    时间: 2013-4-24 16:33

你也遇到了和我一样的问题?怎么弄上清都少?

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难道理论上应该是上清比较多么?我做的基本也都在沉淀中
作者: greenbee    时间: 2013-4-24 16:34


最好能上个page图,如果量可以的话,Ni柱纯化上清,就可以“富集”目的蛋白质了。不知道LZ在纠结什么?难道你的这个蛋白质非常容易失活?

作者: nut6694    时间: 2013-4-24 16:34

pMAL-c2x是一个选择,可以试一试,其中的融合蛋白MBP有助溶作用,可以提高共表达目的蛋白的可溶性。但是得到的产物为“MBP-linker-目的蛋白”的一个融合蛋白,若要研究原始蛋白的酶学参数,还要特异性切下。

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嗯。我直接做真核表达去了
作者: nut6694    时间: 2013-4-24 16:35

最好能上个page图,如果量可以的话,Ni柱纯化上清,就可以“富集”目的蛋白质了。不知道LZ在纠结什么?难道你的这个蛋白质非常容易失活?

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我过了镍柱,梯度咪唑洗脱下来后跑胶,发现目的蛋白好少啊。以前做别的基因,诱导出来目的蛋白好大一坨啊···唉,直接真核表达去了。
作者: wmp1234    时间: 2013-4-24 16:35

GST标签的不太好的话, 建议试试PcoldII和pcoldIV,PMAL的纯化成本太高
作者: wu11998866    时间: 2013-4-24 16:36


各位大侠,我用的是pGEX-6P-1,宿主是BL21,我的片段是492bp,我用了20度,25度,30度,37度,42度,目的条带大约在45KD,但对照在45KD处都有条带,ITPG浓度梯度也没看出有多大变化,请教各位大侠,该怎么样改进实验呢?





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