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标题: [求助]谁用胰岛素养过细胞? [打印本页]

作者: loli    时间: 2012-2-22 15:28     标题: [求助]谁用胰岛素养过细胞?





请问各位有用胰岛素养细胞的吗?
ATCC说明是用普通牛胰岛素,国内医院里都是人的或猪的,不知道行不行?
谢谢

作者: summerxx    时间: 2012-2-22 15:29


没人用过胰岛素养细胞吗?

作者: kuaizige    时间: 2012-2-22 15:29


好象不行
医院的胰岛素都添加苯酚了的 可能对细胞有毒害作用

作者: xue258    时间: 2012-2-22 15:29


sigma 有卖用于细胞培养的啊,不是很贵的

作者: loli    时间: 2012-2-22 15:30

医院用的胰岛素也行,
我问的协和细胞库,他们用的都是江苏万邦生产的猪胰岛素
而ATCC的细胞要求是用牛胰岛素的

作者: 8964357    时间: 2012-2-22 15:30


我用的是条件培养基培养原代细胞,条件培养基中要添加Dexamethasone、Insulin、Glucagon、Transferrin等物质。按照条件培养基的配制要求,一般不能够应用临床上的药物,因为级别和纯度不一致,not for research only,这是配制条件培养基的最基本要求。所以你应该选用for research only的试剂,可以选用Sigma的细胞培养试剂,我用的胰岛素是I6634.

作者: cj_mondy    时间: 2012-2-22 15:30

想请教你一下,胰岛素和转铁蛋白是用什么溶解的,贮存的浓度为多少?谢谢
作者: loli    时间: 2012-2-22 15:31


我开始也认为临床用的胰岛素也不行
谁都知道sigma的好,可太贵啊
既然人家协和的细胞库都这么用,应该没什么事的,最多长的慢点而已
我那细胞的要求是80%的1640+20%胎牛血清+0.01mg/ml牛胰岛素,到了国内就变成10%的小牛血清加猪胰岛素了
这样会省很多钱的,我想也是咱们的国情决定的吧
当然有钱当然用好的
没钱只能找没钱的办法了,呵呵

作者: dragonkilly    时间: 2012-2-22 15:31


使用临床用的诺和灵胰岛素,诱导3T3细胞分化,效果很好。

作者: kewanqi2011    时间: 2012-2-22 15:31


各位老师:我最近在做实验,在培养好的细胞中加入定量胰岛素,测定细胞对糖利用率的改变。可是不知买哪种胰岛素?请问选什么来源的较好?是牛的吗?我问了Sigma公司,只有粉剂,买回来后是用培养基溶解吗?如果有人买过Sigma公司的胰岛素,请问货号是?

作者: newway    时间: 2012-2-22 15:32

货号是I-5500。是粉末,溶解下载说明书。
我上次电话咨询sigma公司的技术支持,说是用PH=8.2,25mM的HEPES,浓度是10mg/ml。不过非常失败,没有溶解,后来索求赔偿,和供应商联系,现在还在处理中。
这次又定了,不过货还没有到。准备这次好好问好了,再做溶解。

作者: 911    时间: 2012-2-22 15:32


我刚问sigma公司技术部,I5500不是用于细胞培养,说I6634是用于细胞培养的,是牛胰岛素。
我查了溶解胰岛素的方法,说效果不错,你不妨试试:
用PH为2-3的稀盐酸2mg/ml助溶,再用灭菌三蒸水或直接用基础培养基稀释定容到你所要的母液浓度就行了

作者: caihong    时间: 2012-2-22 15:33

我要用胰岛素养细胞,要求是5U/l,但是货号i5500的胰岛素是25mg的包装,怎么换算这个啊?谢谢
作者: viviwang1987    时间: 2012-2-22 15:33


有sterile的液体出售的

作者: 气泡    时间: 2012-2-22 15:34


有没有搞错?5500不是用来培养细胞的?那它是干什么的?治糖尿病?

作者: bohe221    时间: 2012-2-22 15:34

刚刚找到有关胰岛素的说明书:

02/03 Page 2 of 3
INSULIN from Bovine Pancreas
Sigma Prod. No. I5500, I6634, I1882, and I4011
METHOD OF PREPARATION:
Insulin is purified from an ethanol/phosphoric acid extract of bovine pancreas by multiple ammonium sulfate and
isoelectric precipitations. It is then crystallized without zinc followed by crystallization with zinc. The zinc content of
the final product is approximately 0.5%. Zinc can be removed by solubilizing the insulin in dilute acetic acid, adding
excess EDTA to chelate the zinc, and then precipitating the insulin at its pI.7
STABILITY / STORAGE STABILITY:
Insulin should be stored protected from light in a desiccator at -20°C.
SOLUBILITY / SOLUTION STABILITY:
Insulin has low solubility at neutral pH. It can be solubilized at 2 mg/ml in dilute acetic or hydrochloric acid, pH 2-3.
A stock solution can be stored frozen at -20°C in single-use aliquots. Freeze-thaw cycles should be avoided.
Alternatively, it can be stored for up to 12 months at 2-8°C if it is sterile filtered through a low protein binding
membrane or if it contains a suitable bacteriostat, such as 0.1% thimerosal or sodium azide. Insulin solutions cannot
be autoclaved. Insulin can also be solubilized in 125 mM NaHCO3.6 However, alkaline stock solutions are not
recommended since high pH increases the rate of deamidation and aggregation.
GENERAL REMARKS:
Insulin is produced in vivo in the pancreatic b-cells. The precursor protein (preproinsulin) contains a 23-30 amino
acid signal peptide attached to the amino terminal of proinsulin. Proinsulin is composed of the insulin B-chain
followed by a connecting peptide (C-peptide) and the A-chain. The signal peptide assists in translocatiing
preproinsulin into the lumen of the endoplasmic reticulum, after which it is rapidly cleaved. Proinsulin is then
transported to the Golgi complex where it is packaged into granules and converted to insulin. On secretion,
equimolar amounts of insulin and C-peptide are released into the blood.8,9,10
Insulin is the primary hormone responsible for controlling the cellular uptake, utilization and storage of glucose,
amino acids, and fatty acids while inhibiting the breakdown of glycogen, protein, and fat. Several excellent reviews
of the biochemistry, physiology, and pharmacology of insulin have been published.9,10,11,12 The insulin receptor is a
tyrosine kinase that phosphorylates 185 kDa insulin receptor substrate (IRS-1) found in most cell types. IRS-1
activates phosphatidylinositol 3 kinase (IP3 Kinase).13,14,15 The Kd for insulin at its receptor is approximately 0.5 nM
(approximately 2.9 ng/ml).15
Bovine insulin is often included as a medium supplement for cell culture. The concentration range is 1-10 mg/ml
depending on the cell type.16,17

作者: misswu61    时间: 2012-2-22 15:34


我今天和sigma公司联系,想订购牛胰岛素来培养细胞,但是他们说因为国外是疯牛病疫区,这类产品不能进出口,不能够订购。请问,战友们,有没有人遇到过这种情况啊?

作者: bananapeople    时间: 2012-2-22 15:35


最近需要养人乳腺癌细胞,好几种需要牛胰岛素,刚从北京钮因华信科技发展有限公司买了SIGMA分装的25mg。





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