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标题:【求助】蛋白浓缩方法

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冷冻干燥或peg20000都可以
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amicon ultra-15 cenfilter unitetrifugal units可以反复用吗
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From the instrument, they didn't say it can be reused. Acturally, I did call the supplier once and they also said it is not suggest to reuse because the membrane will be more or less blocked. And also, you can not wash the membrane very clean to avoid to bring contaminants from last sample. But I personally reused two tubes 4 time and the results are, be honest, quite good. You may remember to soak the tube in ddH2O after use otherwise, the membrane will dry and damaged.
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amicon ultra-15 cenfilter unitetrifugal units 30元,
在哪里买的?
南京的代理商怎么告诉我要100块一个?
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我也想做蛋白质的浓缩和脱盐,但蛋白质经亲和层析后,我想用来做双相电泳,但由于洗脱下来的蛋白质有盐,而且比较稀释(2-5ml),因此我想用milipore的柱子来浓缩和脱盐,但我现在还不知道他们的分子量范围到底多大,
请问我该选择哪一种柱子?国内哪个公司直接代理?我在重庆,重庆有代理的吗?
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Well, there are two main categories. One is Amicon Ultra-15 Centrifugal Filter Units, the other is Amicon Ultra-4 Centrifugal Filter Units. 15 means the initial sample volume should be less 15 mL, the 4 means, of course, the initial sample volume should be no more than 4 mL. There maybe some differents between 15 and 4 in price because the larger tube volume, the larger membrane size. So, the 15 one should be a little bit expencive than 4, isn't it? You may want to ask the suppliers how many tubes per pack and also consider whether your centrifuge bucket can hold it (normally it should no problem, but better ask before you buy!). There are 2, 8, 24, and 96 tubes per pack. If you don't know the protein size, suggest you choose the most safe one: Amicon Ultra-4 5K Ultracel-PL memb 2/pk or 8/pk and it could be fixed into 10 mL centrifuge tube.
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Thank you!what mean is MW cutting from 3000 to 100000,for example, whether MW cutting 3000 means the proteins with MW more than 3000 are concentated and desalted?
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That means the membrane cut-off is 3000. There is a formular to convert the cut-off to real molecular weigh. I forgot the formula, but 3000 cut-off is already very small. If I am not wrong, it converts to MW around several hundrads (not accurate here, sorry).
Yeah, you are right. If the MW higher than, (let's use 3000 to represent here), 3000, then it will not go through the membrane but left in the residue part. Small molecules, like sodium Na+, will go through the membrane to the filtrate part. So that, your sample is concentrated and at the same time desalted. If you choose membrane cut-off, let's say, 100000, than some proteins with small MW will also go through the membrane. That means, if you know your target protein's MW, you can choose a suitable membrane to separate the protein you want form others, isn't it? But of course, the shape of a molecule may also effect the filtration efficiency. If a molecule with large MW, theriatically, it will stay in the solution. But, if its shape is rod, than, maybe some of them will also go through the membrane. So, I suggest that you could use the smallest one. I used 3000s one before, almost everything (I mean proteins) stays in the solution.
Are we clear here? Good luck.
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amicon ultra-15 cenfilter unitetrifugal units 30元,
在哪里买的?
南京的代理商怎么告诉我要100块一个?

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此种方法就是超滤浓缩,使用方式有的是离心,有的是加压,有的二者皆用。除了amicon之外,我知道赛多利斯也是很有名的供应厂家,就是做天平很出名的那家德国公司。超滤浓缩这种方式的确太方便了,而且除了有浓缩作用外,还有脱盐功能,速度又快,比传统的透析好多了,实验室用和生产用型号都能找到。不过据介绍,不能反复用!而且价格大家也知道了,30元左右,一般一个包装25个,100个,单个还不知道卖不卖。根据中国国情,呵呵,我建议没经费的实验室还是不要考虑啦;如果时间不紧张,不怕花几天时间,用25元/米的透析袋一样可以达到效果。
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多谢各位高手的指教,能再请问一下用透析袋和PEG浓缩后,浓缩液中各种离子浓度是否会明显增高而影响进一步的实验?
谢谢!
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